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Re:What you hope we get in our new codex - 2006/03/06 12:05 While I like the old Special Character models they do need updating. Asmodia most importantly.

The BT received the Sword Brethern models I would imagine the DA will get something similiar. Special sprue sounds like it is already a done deal.

Where is this Dark Stalker? I have seen some concept sketches but do not remember a Scout type drawing.

I personally like the 'Knights of the Order'.

Rules-wise I think the Standards need to be tweeked to fitting 4.0 rules. DW need a lil' something. Maybe they get 'stubborn' and a special skill for 45 pnts total. This shouldn't be a DW thing (more of a Termie thing in general) but something needs to be special about a DW Sgt.!! To many times he is the first model to be removed because the PW just doesn't cut it. He is a Vet Sgt in the DW for crying out load!! Give him s WS5, I5 or something to make you want to keep him. If he cost extra points so be it, he should not be the first casualty in you battles.

Not much of a Ravenwing player so I haven't a clue for updates there.

I'm also not to fond of plasma DA. I prefer they go in a differnent direction. Like a special rule for sword weilders! Bring back the old parry rule and/or a special Claymore/Two-handed sword which renders PF rules.

Thats it for now.

Post edited by: Beowolf, at: 2006/03/06 13:06
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Re:What you hope we get in our new codex - 2006/03/06 12:41 they have vets and we have our vets just they are all issued with terminator armour Brother Xeres Signing out
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Re:What you hope we get in our new codex - 2006/03/06 13:05 Brother Xeres wrote:
they have vets and we have our vets just they are all issued with terminator armour

I was refering more to unit models... not unit rules.
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Re:What you hope we get in our new codex - 2006/03/06 13:52 Beowolf wrote:'Knights of the Order'
Just what I've been thinking.
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Re:What you hope we get in our new codex - 2006/03/06 14:14 no really, our vets have always been in terminator armour and shall always be so. I dont want normal vets as then we are just a slightly odd codex chapter.

The stalker image: http://www.warseer.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=search&cat=0&pos=1

I would like the deathwing to become rather more powerfull than they are currently and cost 60-75 points each really as then they would match the background of being the best of the best.

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Re:What you hope we get in our new codex - 2006/03/06 15:00 I see what you are saying..

By no means am I trying to say "I want Power Armor Vets". I just want a new DA models like what is in the sketches.

Also I did see the Scout but didn't realize it had a special name or potential special purpose. Seems to me to be a cheap way for GW to get away from doing KotO!
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Re:What you hope we get in our new codex - 2006/03/06 16:59 Brother Xeres wrote:
no really, our vets have always been in terminator armour and shall always be so.
Not true, all veterans are inducted into the deathwing.
All those in the first compant wear terminator armour, and we are the only chapter to have that.
All other deathwing inducted vets (like a vet tactical squad sgt) wear power armour. I dont see why a 'knights of the order' couldn't just be some veterans that are used as a command squad.?
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Re:What you hope we get in our new codex - 2006/03/06 21:37 Yeah blak i did not count Vet Sgt's as they are the exception.
Cant wait to see if GW really do like Dark Angels enough to give us well thought out rules, new fluff and great new models.
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Re:What you hope we get in our new codex - 2006/03/07 12:26 After going throught the concept sketchs I realized something. I feel the DA will be getting some type of rule that allows for using two similiar weapons (ie. PW+PW or BP+PP). There are two examples of this in the sketches. Also the DA have a history of this with Cypher using the BP+PP combo.

Now I don't know how this will work for two PW's but I feel there will be an added advantage above and beyond the +1 for two CBW's. This too is in prior history of the DA with the Asmodai model that should have been Saphon (??- his name is escaping me right now... the Grand Master of Chaplians in the 2nd Ed AoD codex).
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Re:What you hope we get in our new codex - 2006/03/07 12:45 Tbh i would make the duel swords a very special type of matched powerswords, maybe ignore invulerable saves as well or wound on +2 Brother Xeres Signing out
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Re:What you hope we get in our new codex - 2006/03/07 13:26 I'd love too see the duel concept, not only because I have an idea for a vet sgt with a pair of power weapons. I had heard something on the dueling issue.
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Re:What you hope we get in our new codex - 2006/03/07 14:34 How about... "always hit on a 3+".. or it could be similiar to Twin linked "reroll misses". LC give 'reroll wounds' so this would be a good option and in line with the way GW creates their rules.
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Re:What you hope we get in our new codex - 2006/03/07 16:16 The issue i have with the common dueling is that it will take away from the serious dark gothic look and nature of the unforgiven. Dueling is a very very hard style to master in real life (im only awear of one style of sword fighting that uses it).

Masters or other high ranking dark angels would have shown they have the skill in battle and the mindset to even attempt to learn such a differcult and specialised fighting style.
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Re:What you hope we get in our new codex - 2006/03/07 17:44 Brother Xeres wrote:
The issue i have with the common dueling is that it will take away from the serious dark gothic look and nature of the unforgiven. Dueling is a very very hard style to master in real life (im only awear of one style of sword fighting that uses it).

Masters or other high ranking dark angels would have shown they have the skill in battle and the mindset to even attempt to learn such a differcult and specialised fighting style.


You have to admit the DA do have a history with duel weapons.

Asmodai with a PW and Crozius and Cypher with BP and PP. So GW does have something to build off of. Also I have been seeing alot of huge two-handed swords in DA art (HH III and the concept sketches). This is something else they could add to the DA armory. Not sure how they will empliment rules though.
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Re:What you hope we get in our new codex - 2006/03/07 18:24 oh beo mate i agree with you that the duel swords and duel pistols should be there, just it has to be done well or we will end up looking as bad as the tau (aka like a crappy asian cartoon) Brother Xeres Signing out
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