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What you hope we get in our new codex - 2006/03/04 15:13
Hi guys, right our codex is comming this year (maybe before the elder) so what do you want in it?
for me it would be:
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Dark Angel Stalker - as seen in the concept pictures This character sounds perfect for the dark angels as the scouts that find and investigate reports on the fallen (for those who have not seen the concepts he is like a mix of vindicare assassian and dark angel scout).
Deathwing - Hope we get somthing like the space puppies got for there termys (look on forgeworld to see them), as really normal termys with the deathwing shoulder pads just dont cut it for me.
Mortis Dread - Hope we get this as i love the idea and it suits the dark angels well. I would settle for just the rules for it and having to get the forgeworld stuff though (ive got a bit of a forgeworld fetish i think  )
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RavenWing - The rules need to be sorted out for these guys and i think they should get some special rules ect to make them stand out alot more (quite a specialist playstyle).
Deathwing - I always thought that the deathwing should be more elite than the normal termys but maybe thats just me.
Martis Dreads - Love the idea and with the forgeworld kit they look very nice, no reason for gw not to include them.
New predator tank type - Prob will never happen but i would like to see a plasma based predator to show the dark angels heavy use and knowlage of all things plasma (makes up for other chapters being able to use plasma in tac squads).
Anyway, what do you guys think we should get and why?
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Re:What you hope we get in our new codex - 2006/03/04 17:13
I’d like too see what comes off this “executioner” concept , and I hear something on duelling swords?
Model wise:
On the basic tactical sprue, I’d like to see more then one option for robed marines (I like to have a few in my squads). And some general other nice bits and pieces.
Some character models (Azreal etc)
Mortiis
Any type’s of characters/squad types. It would be nice for the DA’s to get a specific squad like BT sword brethren, ultra nid hunters.
I really hope forgeworld do a deathwing conversion kit like they did for the pups.
Rules:
I’d like to see a different type of librarian to the standard vanilla, not necessarily more powerful, but something that would bring the closer to the “interrogator” chaplains since they do help them out.
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Re:What you hope we get in our new codex - 2006/03/04 18:05
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- Two plasmaguns for tactical squads.
- Update of the sacred standards.
- Points-cut for Deathwing.
- 5+ Save for Ravenwing.
- Upgrade of the chalice of retrebution.
Minis:
- New character minis.
- The three sacred standards made like the one of the ultras.
- Robed terminators.
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Re:What you hope we get in our new codex - 2006/03/04 19:00
- Two plasmaguns for tactical squads.
Agreed, suits DA alot.
- Update of the sacred standards.
Yeah our standards atm are a total joke (well the cost of getting them at least)
- Points-cut for Deathwing.
Personally i would like to see the deathwing made alot better in the game and therefore alot more expensive. The deathwing in my view are the best termy force of any chapter.
- 5+ Save for Ravenwing.
Agreed but it depends on what they tweek with the ravenwing in other places
- Upgrade of the chalice of retrebution.
Yeah, i hate how atm half the da things eather use codex rules or are broken.
Minis:
- New character minis.
Really hope they dont, the currect minis in my veiw and may other da players are that the current ones are some of the best minis in the gw range.
- Robed terminators.
Yeah, they should make a deathwing termy sprue with robed bodes (like the one used on this sites background) and deathwing marked shoulder pads and legs.
To Blakkheim, from what i heard forgeworld did not do the deathwing conversion because gw were plannning on making a deathwing sprue.
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Re:What you hope we get in our new codex - 2006/03/05 08:58
I take it by 2 plasma's you mean heavy? I'd be against this as I dont want people to think even more that we are a stand and shoot. I'd rather see more depth and individualism to other chapters then merely a weapon. Army should be verstile and not stuck in a stand and shoot dilema. Although perhaps if you really want plasma death, how about the combi bolter/plasma?
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Re:What you hope we get in our new codex - 2006/03/05 10:18
imo DA don't need the plasma thing to individulise them and it was only included in the 3rd ed codex as an cop out rather than individulising them with there range of mins.
I think our background is strong enough that you don't need a oh well got issued more plasma weapons as we were here first mentalety(?) just my two cents
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Re:What you hope we get in our new codex - 2006/03/05 11:10
He ment 2 plasma guns, not plasma cannons. Tbh this would suit the da well as they are a flexable weapon and is the weapon of choice vs chaos marines in my view. I think most chapters would field more plasma weapons if they knew had the large stockpiles and the knowlage to repair or even make them.
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Re:What you hope we get in our new codex - 2006/03/05 11:14
Blakkheim wrote:
I take it by 2 plasma's you mean heavy?
No, plasmaguns as if you'd have the trait 'clense and purify'. That'd be still move and shoot then.
And I agree that DA don't need plasma as an idividualisation tool. But this is basically a trifle of a rule.
On a more unrealistic wishlist I'd put 'hunting lances' for Ravenwing biker squads. That'd rock.
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Re:What you hope we get in our new codex - 2006/03/05 12:40
raven go play elder to get your lances
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Re:What you hope we get in our new codex - 2006/03/05 15:59
Brother Xeres wrote:
raven go play elder to get your lances
Too late, as I already have my lances. Hunting lances are Imperial Guard wargear that gives rough riders +2S, +2I on the charge and ignore armor (one use only though). At least I can dream. 
If you people have ever seen the new DA concept art, there is speculation about a specialized scout (assassin) and plasmablasters. If incorporated correctily this could give some more flavor to DA.
EDIT: Link trouble.
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Re:What you hope we get in our new codex - 2006/03/05 17:24
yup ive seen those concepts and its in my post at the top of this thread .
The stalker (what he is titled as in the concept) will be intresting to see what role he plays. Personally i would love it if he had vindicare type abilitys with his sniper rifle (being able to target anyone within a squad) but on the otherhand maybe he is not a character bt a new unit type (im guessing the same rules as elder pathfinders or close to them)
I did forget about the plasma blaster being in the images but may i ask what they do (im guessing a plasma version of a stormbolter)?
About the lances, personally i hope they dont, just the image of lance equipted land speeders would ruin dark angels for me really
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Re:What you hope we get in our new codex - 2006/03/05 21:10
I'm not sure we'd need a total revamp of the Dark Angels Codex.
Maybe makingn some of the special items more viable and revealing some more of the Dark Angels background?
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Re:What you hope we get in our new codex - 2006/03/06 11:16
nath personally atm the darkangels in the game are very bland and to codex compared to what they are like in the background. I would also like to see a bonus to Dar Angel commanders as our primarch was well known for his great tactical ability when planning assaults ect.
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Re:What you hope we get in our new codex - 2006/03/06 11:18
Basically, I hope everything (the models) gets redone. A Dark Angels sprue would be really cool, and sergeants/heroes in robes would be great.
I would love to see some more characters, or at least the old ones redone. I would also like to see the fallen, they could be used for some great dioramas.
I have come up with a unit much like the UM Tyranid Hunters. They are DA veterans especially suited to hunt the fallen, it would be cool if we got it. Why should the smurfs have über veterans but not we?
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Re:What you hope we get in our new codex - 2006/03/06 11:20
Basically, I hope everything (the models) gets redone. A Dark Angels sprue would be really cool, and sergeants/heroes in robes would be great.
I would love to see some more characters, or at least the old ones redone. I would also like to see the fallen, they could be used for some great dioramas.
I have come up with a unit much like the UM Tyranid Hunters. They are DA veterans especially suited to hunt the fallen, it would be cool if we got it. Why should the smurfs have über veterans but not we?
*We are the first, the honoured , the sons of the Lion - We are the Dark Angels* |
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